tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post4886903690608698643..comments2024-03-25T02:53:26.373-04:00Comments on Women in Crime Ink: Criminal SelfishnessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-89443074389151279312009-05-19T23:52:07.287-04:002009-05-19T23:52:07.287-04:00Yes, anonymous. I did read about this case. I kn...Yes, anonymous. I did read about this case. I knew about the illegality of Littlejohn working there at all. I chose not to write about that aspect of the case. Instead, the focus of my piece was the moral and ethical issues surrounding Dorrian's initial lies to the police.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862216235066807651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-53955862259601579882009-05-19T17:58:28.926-04:002009-05-19T17:58:28.926-04:00His lie was actually much simpler than that. Litt...His lie was actually much simpler than that. Littlejohn was on probation. He shouldnt have been working at a bar.<br /><br />Dorrian didnt want to get in troublt (AGAIN), for doing underhanded things. He obviously paid him under the table. I dont think that he thought he killed her though. Immette was screaming INSIDE the bar (if the story has stayed the same), which is why Dorrian had her escorted out, she didnt want to leave and she was drunk. Didnt you read about this case?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-3065972624147036232009-05-19T00:35:00.000-04:002009-05-19T00:35:00.000-04:00The usual thinking is that by keeping mum the cops...The usual thinking is that by keeping mum the cops may look elsewhere and go off on some tangent that doesn't hurt their business or expose them to liability.<br /><br />Some NY restauranteurs have had annoying habits. One routinely offered a valet parker who merely drove the cars to nearby fire hydrants and brought the cars back to their unsuspecting owners with the torn-up parking tickets stuffed into his pockets. Another tried to hold onto a patron's fur coat on a wintry night when the patron had mistakenly thought she could use a credit card or a check instead of cash. He later had two of his employees send mail to a local magazine ostensibly from patrons at the restaurant but the restauranteur mistakenly used his postage meter to mail them and was found out. <br /><br />The frequently encountered attitude is that if revealing what happened in the restaurant might lead to further trouble, let the cops find out about it on their own. The fact that the bouncer/doorman they had hired clearly was a poor choice to escort even a slightly inebriated woman out the door might impose civil and criminal penalties, so the bar owners best course of action was to say nothing. If the cops later got onto the right track, the usual situation is that there is really little that could ever be done about the misleading statements and lack of candor. <br />Is this morally objectionable? Well, if you are charged with an offense you have the right to plead not guilty and put the state to its proof even though you are in fact guilty. A right to refuse to incriminate oneself at trial is meaningless if one is forced to incriminate oneself at the pretrial stage. I was always surprized that the owner didn't "make a mistake" and re-use the night's videotape.FleaStiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837830811566745662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-91046285237334360732009-05-18T20:06:00.000-04:002009-05-18T20:06:00.000-04:00fascinating read, Diane. your outrage came thru qu...fascinating read, Diane. your outrage came thru quite clear. if one is planning on lying in a court of law, i'd say do it in NY.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10405768126519782257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-59331488839255767212009-05-18T13:10:00.000-04:002009-05-18T13:10:00.000-04:00Hi Diane! I agree with you. Not only is Mr. Dorria...Hi Diane! I agree with you. Not only is Mr. Dorrian a loser, but I'm not so sure the prosecuter isn't as bad. By not charging Dorrian (and i think lying on the stand is illegal most everywhere), the NY courts are sending a clear message to others=say whatever you want....Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16379399270222753260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-20508536005851115392009-05-18T11:55:00.000-04:002009-05-18T11:55:00.000-04:00Oh wow, how I do remember the Preppy Killer and Do...Oh wow, how I do remember the Preppy Killer and Dorrian's Red Hand. Believe it or not, Robert Chambers and I were pen pals for several years. (what was I thinking???!) Its unbelievable that the same owners would be the focus of yet another beautiful young lady being murdered. Did they honestly think the NYPD would not retrace Imettes steps and they could get away with keep their "secret?" Outrageous!Cheryl Dubeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07545585531909841029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-75214402714206081312009-05-18T11:40:00.000-04:002009-05-18T11:40:00.000-04:00Thank you, Anonymous. As I'm sure you can tell, I...Thank you, Anonymous. As I'm sure you can tell, I was outraged when I read about this case.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862216235066807651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-61504754405333769932009-05-18T08:26:00.000-04:002009-05-18T08:26:00.000-04:00It's astounding the number of people who think the...It's astounding the number of people who think their interests are more important than other people's lives and safety. Thank you for a well written article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com