tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post5513855762617011451..comments2024-03-25T02:53:26.373-04:00Comments on Women in Crime Ink: On Land or on WaterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-40271111093480134302010-11-03T11:44:04.505-04:002010-11-03T11:44:04.505-04:00Oh thank God, we'll be able to donate money to...Oh thank God, we'll be able to donate money to Tiffany. bringdavidhome.com is being created for just such a purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-25992831798633931062010-10-26T13:11:20.847-04:002010-10-26T13:11:20.847-04:00This was posted to youtube today. Pls watch until ...This was posted to youtube today. Pls watch until the end. And why the palm trees; when was this filmed (she's in Colorado now). And the interviewer is Steve Nohrden who lost in the Republican primary, Nevada's 3rd district.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY50dLc90jc&feature=player_embeddedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-74985537569241799592010-10-25T15:42:54.611-04:002010-10-25T15:42:54.611-04:00I've not followed the case but did wonder how ...I've not followed the case but did wonder how someone could be so incredibly stupid to be fooling around on a jet ski close to the border. I doubt there has been full honesty but I don't know what the story is really. Would a jet ski float? Would it be valuable to a finder? Would smugglers have shot it full of holes just for fun? I don't know. Would anyone be down there if they themselves were not doing a drug deal? I don't know.FleaStiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837830811566745662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-50203508774055562662010-10-24T23:23:02.604-04:002010-10-24T23:23:02.604-04:00I believe her. And, the first thing I thought abo...I believe her. And, the first thing I thought about the body not being found was that they took the body with them, along with the jet ski. Her mother-in-law stood with her and said point blank that she is more than a daughter in law. Close family. They just did something stupid and relied on the media, just like she said.Robin Neff https://www.blogger.com/profile/13042835377909599577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-64065227877859852972010-10-22T16:03:51.672-04:002010-10-22T16:03:51.672-04:00Oops, I forgot to give you the link to the Border ...Oops, I forgot to give you the link to the Border Sheriff's Posse invitation:<br /><br />http://www.unitelascruces.org/eventborder.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-12417598142877541832010-10-22T16:01:48.390-04:002010-10-22T16:01:48.390-04:00I started looking into Sigi Gonzalez, Sherriff Zap...I started looking into Sigi Gonzalez, Sherriff Zapata County and found him to be an advisor to something called the Border Sherriff's Posse. Watch:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv0B4oOeNIA<br />Then I found a Border Sheriff's Posse invitation with guess who, a member of STRATFOR and Mr. Sigi Gonzalez as panelists. You remember STRATFOR, right...There's something very wrong here. I'm looking into further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-65998655492320770322010-10-22T14:23:05.943-04:002010-10-22T14:23:05.943-04:00Anonymous, that IS a strange comment by the mother...Anonymous, that IS a strange comment by the mother. I tend to see more emotion in her, but I wonder if she thought her son might have been involved in something and she is trying to deny the possibility.Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-42679332807285656442010-10-22T14:18:39.924-04:002010-10-22T14:18:39.924-04:00Of course, she could have said, "Bring me bac...Of course, she could have said, "Bring me back his wedding ring as proof..." and now wishes she had asked for something more substantial...Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-91868492127800837462010-10-22T14:17:13.717-04:002010-10-22T14:17:13.717-04:00You have some good points as to the lack of emotio...You have some good points as to the lack of emotion and being in on something. It would help to know what she was like prior to the incident which is what is so important in an investigation to do a behavioral history. Sometimes a person who is psychopathic doesn't respond normally, so even if they actually didn't commit any crime, they come off as very suspicious because of their attitude. So, Tiffany's "story" and present behavior gives off warning bells which should lead to further investigation of their relationships, her relationships, their finances, etc.Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-40549134574074917882010-10-22T14:15:17.046-04:002010-10-22T14:15:17.046-04:00I believe David's mother is giving us clues. ...I believe David's mother is giving us clues. A wife may or may not be bereaved, but a mother should almost certainly be broken up by the recent death of her son. I don't perceive authenticity in the mother's display of emotion (and certainly not the sister either). But, I keep going back to what the mother says unprompted in a CBS Early Show interview, "he was trying to make his country better". Really? How so? He was an oil field manager of some sort. So what did mom mean by this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-18316330184134227332010-10-22T13:24:04.797-04:002010-10-22T13:24:04.797-04:00The lack of emotion tells me that she either wante...The lack of emotion tells me that she either wanted David dead, or he is not dead. You just don't get over the violent death of a loved one in a matter of days.<br /><br />I think the land scenario is interesting, and could see that making sense, if she was in on it in some way. If he was shot accidentally (or intentionally) in the course of a drug deal, if she loved him, she would be feeling guilt, remorse, anger, fear, a whole treasure trove of emotions. She seems to be completely ambivalent and doesn't seem to have any emotion at all. She doesn't seem the slightest bit traumatized. This leads me to believe she was in on whatever happened, and the intention was for DH to not come out of it alive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-71902599505103735272010-10-22T12:44:40.731-04:002010-10-22T12:44:40.731-04:00I dont believe a word she has said.Drug deal gone ...I dont believe a word she has said.Drug deal gone bad or she had him shot one of the two.I have not seen a tear from her yet.And now she moves to Colorado,hmmmmmmmmmmmm how much money from life insurance will she get........<br />Something is rotten in Denmark Opps Texas..............Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-27116239863039772552010-10-22T11:48:33.265-04:002010-10-22T11:48:33.265-04:00The distancing issue is truly fascinating, Peter. ...The distancing issue is truly fascinating, Peter. Now she has moved back to Colorado after stating she would stay in Texas to put the pressure on finding David's body. After being interviewed for eight hours by the Mexican authorities, she packs up. Why the eight hour interview? She has already told her "story" which amounted to nothing more than an inability to identify the boats or the men. That leaves a big question as to why there was a need for eight hours more of questioning. My guess is they were trying to get more from her which means they believe there is more to get.<br /><br /> I considered the possibility that Tiffany brought a gun along and shot him on the lake herself but the scenario she describes seems too involved for that. If she had shot him, she would have most likely shot him in the back of the head, dumped the gun and raced back. The body would likely have been found, no boat would be following her, and she could have told a simple story because she would have had such a simple memory. "We were near the church, they started shooting at us, we raced off, I got away, he didn't/<br /><br /> As to a paid hit, possibly, but I still find her story matching more closely to a confusing scenario where something went wrong and she fled.<br /><br /> It will be interesting to see if we ever hear the Mexican detectives have questioned the veracity of her story.Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15667909509324138003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6316617410436977874.post-21529405234837155882010-10-22T07:51:21.959-04:002010-10-22T07:51:21.959-04:00This is a fascinating analysis of how Tiffany Hart...This is a fascinating analysis of how Tiffany Hartley may have transferred facts from water to land. Most pointedly is that if they were venturing into drug territory on foot and were fired upon as intruders, it is plausible that hit by random fire, David told her to run; which she did, back to the jet ski and onward towards safety. Now she must invent a story in order to cover the real reason for being on the other side of the lake. <br /><br />The struggle I have is with Tiffany's demeanor. She is quick to distance herself from David; appears to be not grieving, but relieved that David is "gone". She does not seek justice, and vowed to wear his ring "forever" or at least until she is "ready" to "move on", which she announced last week, she was now ready to do. <br /><br />If we transport her account from water to land, is it possible that she arranged for this shooting with a Mexican connection, for insurance reasons? Her references to David's size may be an indication that she plans to call herself a victim of domestic violence.<br /><br />In any case, that the FBI would have a two day marathon interview with her tells us that, like the Mexican prosecutor, they're not buying Tiffany's "story" either. <br /><br />As Dr. Glass said as well, is it that David Hartley's family is now distancing themselves from Tiffany since they would likely discuss her changing account, among themselves, and begin to ask questions?<br /><br />This is a fascinating analysis by Pat Brown and a seamless continuation of common sense rising to the surface.<br /><br />Peter HyattPeter Hyatthttp://www.seamusoriley.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com